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    My early candidate to be the "surprise player" of the season for the Browns.

    If the Browns end up having something close to being labeled a "starting" middle linebacker, who would it be among these three?

    This poll is closed.

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    Tank Carder
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    Joe Schobert
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    19%
    Dominique Alexander
    (215 votes)

    1128 votes total

    In Part 2 of our MLB preview, we asked if fans thought either of the teamís undrafted free agent middle linebackers would make the roster. 66% said yes, with Olugbode (63%) garnering almost all of that support. Itís amazing what a PFF ranking can do for a playerís reputation.

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/7...chobert-at-mlb

    I'm not just using this poll as a basis for my feelings but, how I saw Schobert play in college. He showed great intelligence along with excellent range and great anticipation of where the play was going. He just needs more reps and experience to prove himself. I think he could replace Carder as the favourite this year. jmho

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    Browns LB Joe Schobert seizing new opportunities at new position

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    Second-year player a natural fit in 4-3 defense

    “Joe the Show” has a new twist on his nickname entering his second NFL season.

    “I call him showtime,” veteran linebacker Christian Kirksey said, “because he's always out there making plays.”

    Joe Schobert made plenty of plays during his rookie season, but they were mostly relegated to special teams. An outside linebacker in last year’s defensive scheme, Schobert played a steady amount during the first half of the season but saw his playing time diminish after the team acquired Pro Bowl linebacker Jamie Collins Sr. in a mid-season trade.

    Poised to remain a fixture on special teams in 2017, Schobert is competing for legitimate playing time with veteran Tank Carder at the Mike spot in Cleveland’s revamped, 4-3. He’s listed as a second-team player entering Thursday’s preseason opener but the competition is far from over.

    The number of plays he’s consistently making have been hard to ignore.

    “I get a chance to run around a lot more this year and make some checks,” Schobert said. “I get to call the defense so a little more responsibility. It has been good.”



    Linebackers coach Blake Williams did his homework on Schobert shortly after he arrived in Cleveland earlier this year.

    He quickly learned Schobert was Mr. Everything at West High School in Waukesha, Wisconsin. That included basketball and track, sports that showcased the unique athleticism he continues to display, whether it’s on the football field or a viral video of him putting a basketball between his legs in the air before dunking.

    It’s that kind of athleticism Williams, after reviewing Schobert’s college tape and rookie year, viewed as unfulfilled at a position such as 3-4 outside linebacker. Schobert’s offseason program, which focused on reducing overall weight while increasing strength, made it even more of a no-brainer to shift him to the middle.

    “Compared to what I was doing last year, it would be more like I am a D-End this year in this defense,” Schobert said. “I’m definitely glad to be off the ball and behind the line to be able to run the plays down rather than taking on (OL) Shon Coleman in the run game every day.”

    It’s a starting position that won’t be handed to him.

    Carder, one of the longest tenured Browns, has been waiting years for an opportunity like the one he’s embraced at this year’s training camp. He’s been praised throughout the offseason program and into training camp and has kept a steady hand on the field alongside Kirksey and Jamie Collins.

    All Schobert can do is keep making plays and keep soaking up the veteran knowledge Carder is providing.

    “Playing behind Tank, he gets to learn from a veteran, a guy who's been here six years, a guy who has been with the coaching changes, wins, losses. He has a great vet to learn from,” Kirksey said. “He's keeping quiet, staying in the classroom, learning. He's a very intelligent guy.”

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    Being the middle linebacker in this defense is going to be a fun job. Kirksey and Collins next to you, Ogbah, Shelton, and Garrett in front of you. That's a dream job.
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    I like Joe the show....think he will end up getting the majority of snaps by the midway part of the season at the latest and show well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard View Post
    I like Joe the show....think he will end up getting the majority of snaps by the midway part of the season at the latest and show well.
    Update.......Joe will be the starter by the time the regular season starts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard View Post
    Update.......Joe will be the starter by the time the regular season starts
    Did you just quote yourself??

    Lololol

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    Yep, Joe looked awesome last night. The tentativeness he had last year playing out of position is completely gone. Kid looked good.

    Tank Carder is also still awful.
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    Lots of positives on the defensive side last night. Joe played very well and aggressively.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillzilla View Post
    Yep, Joe looked awesome last night. The tentativeness he had last year playing out of position is completely gone. Kid looked good.

    Tank Carder is also still awful.
    Schobert was Linebacker of the year as a senior in 2015 in a power running conference. Makes sense to move him inside.

    Look at this list We have 3 guys on it.

    http://btn.com/2015/11/30/view-2015-...award-winners/



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Brookster View Post
    Schobert was Linebacker of the year as a senior in 2015 in a power running conference. Makes sense to move him inside.

    Look at this list We have 3 guys on it.

    http://btn.com/2015/11/30/view-2015-...award-winners/
    Frankly, I didn't understand why we had him playing outside last year. Didn't fit his skill set at all. Thought he would have been a nice fit as a rotational piece with Davis. Oh well.
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